Archive for August, 2009
Mona Vie just another MLM scheme?
One of my husband’s employees has been trying to get my husband to join him in selling Mona Vie. We aren’t too familiar with this product except is some kind of health juice drink. Hubbie told the kid to let us try the product and then if we liked it we might buy more. The response was that there was no way he could let us sample it unless we wanted to buy a $45.00 bottle because he couldn’t afford to just give it away.
He was much more interested in having my husband sell it than buy it so it led me to believe that this is just another Multi level marketing scheme.
Is this about the product or about recruiting? I joined Amway ten years or so ago thinking I would sell products only to find out that the "average" salesperson made nothing. It was more about selling you motivational tapes. Is Mona Vie like this?
Listen to that inner voice that’s telling you it’s a scam, because — IT’S A SCAM!
It’s a run-of-the-mill substandard juice product (containing a lot of grape juice) worth only about 1/10th or less of what they charge for it. The name of the game is to recruit you into the quasi-pyramid so that they can get you on the hook for monthly bulk shipments and an assortment of Monavie merchandise and "sales training" materials. Those at the top reap the profits.
This MLM is particularly bad because it has elements of both a pyramid scheme and a cult. The sales pitches for Monavie are laced with misleading and illegal claims about how it cures diseases, relieves pain/inflammation, promotes sleep, and provides energy — all utter nonsense. They were cited by the FDA for illegal advertising in 2007 and since then, many sources have written critiques of the product and the business (e.g. Newsweek, Forbes, Huffington Post, NY Times, Men’s Journal, etc.).
The company website has an income disclosure statement which shows that only a select few ever make any substantial income selling this juice (the people that got in early) and almost everyone else is making less than minimum wage, before expenses.
Wanted: Tips for moving to Europe?
Hello! Can anyone provide some smart tips and tricks for relocating to Europe? I am interested in hearing from people who have moved from the states to Europe recently and have good insight as to how to start the relocation process (What did you do to make it happen), networking to get hired (I have a B.S. degree and solid sales,marketing, buying exp.), doing research on where to live (nice cities to live in), and any other motivating comments. I am also interested in networking if you are someone with good connections abroad. Pls only serious, honest posts. Thanks and Ciao!!!
First, you need to know that it isn’t legal for you to work here without having a work permit and a visa that allows you to do so unless you’re from the EU. Generally, you cannot apply for a work permit yourself – the company has to apply for it which means you need to have a job lined up. Jobs for people outside the EU are difficult. EU citizens have the right to move and work within the EU, so there’s a much smaller burden for a company to hire someone from here than from the US. You have to have the visa before you arrive here. Here in Italy, you will also need to apply for a permesso di soggiorno after you arrive and get a codice fiscale (the equivalent of an SSN).
A good strating point for planning this type of move is to do some research on the expat websites for the countries you’re interested in. This is a good way to get current information and make in-country contacts. These are sites for expats in Italy with general info on living and working here:
http://www.us-expatriate-handbook.com/
http://www.expatsinitaly.com/
http://www.jobonline.it/
http://italy.jobs.com/
There are similar sites for other countries – just search for the name of the country and "expat". a few examples:
http://www.expats.cz/
http://www.expatica.com/nl/main.html
http://www.expats.org.uk/countryinfo/fra…
http://www.spainexpat.com/
http://www.expatica.com/
http://www.escapeartist.com/
The trick is finding a job that pays enough that you can support yourself. I was fortunate enough to move here through my existing job. There are not a huge number of available jobs right now, and people from the EU will have preference. I already had a job here and the paperwork took 8 months. (Note – I’ve been here 9 years, but the process hasn’t changed much other than the specific forms changing).
As an American expat, you’ll have to file tax returns both here and in the US. You should also be aware that it’s more expensive to live here than in the US. For example, gas is roughly equivalent to $8 to $9 per gallon now.
Good luck!
What is the biggest problems mlm and network marketers face? Also what solution have you found to work best?
Thank you for you participation. I am currently doing a report and would love to do a phone interview with you and feature you answers in the report.
That the company does not really sell a product or service but sells a non-attainable dream.
I have dealt with hundreds of MLM people and they are all the same, different product same concept.
If their company actually had to produce what they are ’selling’ they couldn’t keep up with the demand.
Does it make sense to tell a person, who hasn’t even used the product, that they can make money getting other people involved in selling it for them?
The whole scheme is to be at the top and start the chain. You can start this as easy as they can.
Pick anything. Here’s how it works.
I’ll select cow shit.
I come into your home and tell you how my new rev product will make your grass grow twice as fast by just applying it. You sign up and we will ship you a new load every month for the low price of..
OK so that goes on for like 5 minutes.
BUT WAIT!
If you sign up several people to buy my cow shit I’ll give you ….
That goes on for 45 minutes.
Now your a distributor of cow shit and if you could get enough people signed up buying it you could get rich.
You get the drift. Invite a couple of these people over and you’ll see the same spiel run, different product, same result.
And surprise after a year, or less, the company isn’t in business anymore. Who would’a thought.
If you want to really talk to someone who takes this seriously contact the Ohio Attorney General’s Office. They will be happy to give you an earful of what they think about this and what they have done.
When will poor and working-class conservatives realize they’ve been had?
You’re just a tool of the oligarchy.
A single line of code in an operating system.
A cog in an immense machine.
The corporate oligarchy you defend doesn’t care about you – not at all, not even a little bit.
When they’ve extracted all they can take from you, they’ll throw you aside and move on to the next.
To them, you are disposable, replaceable, expendable. A cost on their income statement. A liability on their balance sheet. Nothing more.
You will never be inaugurated into the ole’ boys network. You will never get a seat at the table. You will never be invited to a three-martini lunch at the country club. You will never join the upper echelons of the ruling elite – they reserve that for their own.
The "rugged individualism" and foolish optimism they’ve instilled in you is an illusion. They tell you if you work hard for them, for long hours and little pay, that you too can become one of the masters.
They are lying. They will pull the rug out from under you, right as you think yourself on the cusp of entering the ruling class. No, they won’t allow it.
They’ll cut your salary to "stay competitive," and then ship your job off to China anyways. They’ll fire you so they don’t have to give you severance pay. They’ll declare bankruptcy to steal your pension.
You think yourself honorable and righteous for not demanding the income you’ve produced. You are a fool. You think the myth of the "free market" is a matter of morality and principle. You are a dupe.
The oligarchy doesn’t care a lick about the ideology they tell you to care about. They have no morals. They have no principles. They will happily rob you blind as you’re foolishly parroting their talking points.
You are a serf, they are the lords. You are a slave, they are the masters.
They’ve taken your health care, your schools, your drinking water (remember back when you didn’t have to buy bottles?), your roads. They’ve bankrupted your country and stolen your future.
But now that they’ve taken everything there is to take, and they don’t know what to do, for they have no use for it anyways. They were never taking because they wanted. They took because they wanted to take.
Their illusion has been exposed. Their fraud has been outed. Their system of compulsion is broken. Their failure is manifest. Their debt-slaves are defaulting. Their fiefdom is revolting.
It’s all coming crashing down, and not even they can prevent it. The implosion is unavoidable. Time to wake up.
They are not smart enough to realize it….
Poor and working class= uneducated and ignorant.
How do I get rid of all this baggage and start a real career in journalism?
I’m 24 and have been trying to start a career for a few years now, but haven’t quite produced anything professionally significant. When I was 20 I dropped out of college because of some severe personal frustrations and problems, but I restarted college from zero when I was 22. So now I’m a junior and have 2 more years to go till graduation.
OK so here’s the deal. I studied a bit of business management, European studies, communication, and philosophy. What I had really wanted to study was music, theater, and law; but I had graduated from high school prematurely and didn’t have enough time to make important decisions based on what I really loved in my heart–I went through my teen and early twenties mostly being dictated by someone else who thought they knew better than I do, but nothing turned out as planned.
I have lived in 5 countries, 4 continents, and traveled even more. Between ages 19-21 I have worked as a marketing agent for an insurance company, but I hated the job, wasn’t very successful, and barely made any money. In 2011 I will graduate, with a bachelor’s degree in Performing Arts Communication. I currently have a 3.68 GPA, but I think my university program is messed up because I’m barely learning anything useful in communication and performing arts to prepare me for the professional world. I want to be a freelance journalist and establish a reputation in magazines like TimeOut, Esquire, Maxim, and Reader’s Digest.
The only thing I’m good at is writing. I would’ve been a good stage performer too, but I didn’t get a chance to develop my singing, acting, and music skills because when I was younger, I was busy doing other things that I thought was more "productive". But now that I didn’t get to develop what I thought I would have loved, I often run out of stuff to write about. When I write, I write about my relationships and my thoughts, and I have quite a following among my friends and acquaintances. But I have trouble writing more "marketable" subjects that are less personal, like music and entertainment. I would have loved to write about travel, hang out spots, history, and culture, because these are not difficult subjects to write about. But it’s the gaining the experience to write about that may cost a lot–I would have to spend lots of money traveling, hanging out, taking adventurous expedition trips, interviewing people, and watching performances.
I consider myself a generalist: I know a lot of things on the surface, and I can talk about them elaborately and articulately. But I don’t really know anything in depth, so most of the time I feel underqualified to do anything I actually love doing. I don’t study deep, I study broad. I’m just a good speaker and I avoid looking ignorant at all costs. Consequently, people think I’m smarter than I really am; but once I earn the responsibility I get clueless as to how to sustain it and drive it further because I simply don’t know enough and don’t know what to do about it. And then I disappoint myself and others.
Last year I was about to start working as a lecturer assistant at my campus for a subject I absolutely hated, but I had a plan and was going to find a way to network my way into the job I wanted in a different industry. Well, I gave up the job offer to start a business with an investor from an industry totally different from the one we’re going into. They ended up ditching me with all the dirty work, and now our business is going nowhere. Now I’m about to put the business on hold and focus on working as a freelance journalist while I figure things out.
I’m just sick and tired of finding that there’s always something wrong with me. People keep telling me that I’ll be fine and that there’s always room at the top in the professional world for someone like me, but I’m about to hit my mid 20’s and I don’t have anything to show yet and I don’t know where I’m going. I’m getting married in 2 years–my to-be-husband is a junior lawyer with a good salary, but I think my career has more to do with my self esteem than it does with money (because there are some spending habits we slightly disagree on, so I think it would be much better for our relationship if we could budget basic necessities on his salaries and leisurely spending from mine… plus we’d have more disposable money to save and invest too). Besides, I surely didn’t go through all that expensive education just to stay home and do a stack of ironing! I’ve a brain that could bless others; i don’t want it to be an itch I cannot scratch!
OK, so based on that, what are some strengths I can build on that would make me professionally distinct from other professionals? Where should I start selling myself? Which expectations of mine are realistic, and what can I do to bring my dreamy ones down to earth? What can I do to produce the quality of work required in order to associate with brands like TimeOut and Esquire, or other media of equal prestige? How do I ensure that this plan wou
you can start by going to college.

